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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://hourann.com/blog/2006/06/10/so-much-for-cockburn-stadium/comment-page-1#comment-14462</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Decentralize and get some major infrastructure north and south of the river. Cockburn is the regional to the south that Joondalup is to the north; with both around 25kms from the Perth GPO.
We have greenfields and can, with this blank canvas shape the future for our kids kids...we may even get smart and put a Regional Police station right near the Freeway! Hmmm maybe thats too much common sense!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Decentralize and get some major infrastructure north and south of the river. Cockburn is the regional to the south that Joondalup is to the north; with both around 25kms from the Perth GPO.<br />
We have greenfields and can, with this blank canvas shape the future for our kids kids&#8230;we may even get smart and put a Regional Police station right near the Freeway! Hmmm maybe thats too much common sense!</p>
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		<title>By: azza-bazoo</title>
		<link>http://hourann.com/blog/2006/06/10/so-much-for-cockburn-stadium/comment-page-1#comment-1099</link>
		<dc:creator>azza-bazoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, I only just noticed that Akismet had false-positived on your comment :-(

To respond to your criticisms in order:
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;it&#039;s really not &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; far away: 12 minutes (express) on the new railway or 18 minutes on the freeway&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I&#039;m not too sure about your &quot;all around the world&quot; claim; Homebush in Sydney is about 20km from their CBD, as are the World Cup stadia in Berlin and Munich. Admittedly, most of the other World Cup &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yellowikis.org/wiki/index.php/World_Cup_2006&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;venues&lt;/a&gt; are a similar distance to their city as Subiaco.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;There is already, now, a siding and turnback at Cockburn station, and each six-car train pair (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newmetrorail.wa.gov.au/Default.aspx?tabid=82&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;15 have been bought&lt;/a&gt;) will carry 1000 people, so shipping 20000 people per hour between Perth and Cockburn shouldn&#039;t be hard at all.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Some parts of Cockburn -- not near the stadium site -- have midgie problems, my suburb included. However the City of Cockburn has (mostly) done a good job controlling them.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I only just noticed that Akismet had false-positived on your comment <img src='http://hourann.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To respond to your criticisms in order:</p>
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<li>it&#8217;s really not <em>that</em> far away: 12 minutes (express) on the new railway or 18 minutes on the freeway</li>
<li>I&#8217;m not too sure about your &#8220;all around the world&#8221; claim; Homebush in Sydney is about 20km from their CBD, as are the World Cup stadia in Berlin and Munich. Admittedly, most of the other World Cup <a href="http://www.yellowikis.org/wiki/index.php/World_Cup_2006" rel="nofollow">venues</a> are a similar distance to their city as Subiaco.</li>
<li>There is already, now, a siding and turnback at Cockburn station, and each six-car train pair (<a href="http://www.newmetrorail.wa.gov.au/Default.aspx?tabid=82" rel="nofollow">15 have been bought</a>) will carry 1000 people, so shipping 20000 people per hour between Perth and Cockburn shouldn&#8217;t be hard at all.</li>
<li>Some parts of Cockburn &#8212; not near the stadium site &#8212; have midgie problems, my suburb included. However the City of Cockburn has (mostly) done a good job controlling them.</li>
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		<title>By: Sporty</title>
		<link>http://hourann.com/blog/2006/06/10/so-much-for-cockburn-stadium/comment-page-1#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>Sporty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cockburn is too far away. All around the world they are building closer to cities. I read that the Cockburn site is good because it will have a rail line, so what, so does Subi. Anyway, it is one line both ways which won&#039;t turn people over very quickly. The further away from the city the longer the trains will take to get back and pick up more people I guess. I think a site near the Swan River sounds good

PS - A friend told me they have lots of midgies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cockburn is too far away. All around the world they are building closer to cities. I read that the Cockburn site is good because it will have a rail line, so what, so does Subi. Anyway, it is one line both ways which won&#8217;t turn people over very quickly. The further away from the city the longer the trains will take to get back and pick up more people I guess. I think a site near the Swan River sounds good</p>
<p>PS &#8211; A friend told me they have lots of midgies</p>
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		<title>By: Thia</title>
		<link>http://hourann.com/blog/2006/06/10/so-much-for-cockburn-stadium/comment-page-1#comment-904</link>
		<dc:creator>Thia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re the OBE stuff, I&#039;m still recovering from the shock of my old school principal actually having an opinion of her own, coming out and saying it and then backing it up with evidence.  o.O  Going to have stop calling her Barbie now... maybe.  Consequently missed the &quot;theory&quot; bit.

Funny how when an interstater asks how many unis there are here I always say &quot;Three... no wait, four... no wait, there&#039;s supposedly one in Freo too, make that sort-of-five...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re the OBE stuff, I&#8217;m still recovering from the shock of my old school principal actually having an opinion of her own, coming out and saying it and then backing it up with evidence.  o.O  Going to have stop calling her Barbie now&#8230; maybe.  Consequently missed the &#8220;theory&#8221; bit.</p>
<p>Funny how when an interstater asks how many unis there are here I always say &#8220;Three&#8230; no wait, four&#8230; no wait, there&#8217;s supposedly one in Freo too, make that sort-of-five&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: skribe</title>
		<link>http://hourann.com/blog/2006/06/10/so-much-for-cockburn-stadium/comment-page-1#comment-883</link>
		<dc:creator>skribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not familiar with the &#039;Rock-It&#039; concerts but I&#039;d guess that they&#039;re aimed at teens and tweens, who are more likely to venture far for a good time.  Most sporting events are aimed at families and they&#039;re naturally less venturesome.  

Also it&#039;s not how far away but how long it takes to get there.  I haven&#039;t ventured down to Cockburn for many a year but my memories are that it isn&#039;t as straight forward as screaming at 100kph down the freeway for 30mins like you can with Joondalup. When you&#039;ve got kids the less time in the car the better - especially in a car stuck in traffic/at lights.  

To me Cockburn seems a long way to travel for a football game.  I would suspect that would be a common view held by Perthites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with the &#8216;Rock-It&#8217; concerts but I&#8217;d guess that they&#8217;re aimed at teens and tweens, who are more likely to venture far for a good time.  Most sporting events are aimed at families and they&#8217;re naturally less venturesome.  </p>
<p>Also it&#8217;s not how far away but how long it takes to get there.  I haven&#8217;t ventured down to Cockburn for many a year but my memories are that it isn&#8217;t as straight forward as screaming at 100kph down the freeway for 30mins like you can with Joondalup. When you&#8217;ve got kids the less time in the car the better &#8211; especially in a car stuck in traffic/at lights.  </p>
<p>To me Cockburn seems a long way to travel for a football game.  I would suspect that would be a common view held by Perthites.</p>
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		<title>By: azza-bazoo</title>
		<link>http://hourann.com/blog/2006/06/10/so-much-for-cockburn-stadium/comment-page-1#comment-876</link>
		<dc:creator>azza-bazoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good point; I cop some of that myself from northern folks I&#039;ve met at UWA. Of course, us southerners are never so rude ;-)

But I would venture that a footy stadium would be sufficiently big and unmissable that it could help combat that kind of sentiment. By way of comparison, the Rock-It concerts are always at Arena Joondalup (further from Perth than Cockburn) but they don&#039;t seem to draw too many distance-based whinges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good point; I cop some of that myself from northern folks I&#8217;ve met at UWA. Of course, us southerners are never so rude <img src='http://hourann.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But I would venture that a footy stadium would be sufficiently big and unmissable that it could help combat that kind of sentiment. By way of comparison, the Rock-It concerts are always at Arena Joondalup (further from Perth than Cockburn) but they don&#8217;t seem to draw too many distance-based whinges.</p>
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		<title>By: skribe</title>
		<link>http://hourann.com/blog/2006/06/10/so-much-for-cockburn-stadium/comment-page-1#comment-874</link>
		<dc:creator>skribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 04:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A story that highlights why a Cockburn stadium would have problems.

During the last World Cup I was involved with the Perth Glory fan club.  We wanted to get together in a pub to watch the games.  A bunch of us lived in or around South Perth and suggested Rosie O&#039;Grady&#039;s in South Perth - now gone.  The few people living north of the river complained and wanted somewhere closer to the centre of Perth so they didn&#039;t have to drive so far.   Rosies was - at most- five minutes drive from the Causeway and without the hassles of city parking.  

In my experience that is pretty typical Perthite behaviour.  Cockburn would have had troubles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A story that highlights why a Cockburn stadium would have problems.</p>
<p>During the last World Cup I was involved with the Perth Glory fan club.  We wanted to get together in a pub to watch the games.  A bunch of us lived in or around South Perth and suggested Rosie O&#8217;Grady&#8217;s in South Perth &#8211; now gone.  The few people living north of the river complained and wanted somewhere closer to the centre of Perth so they didn&#8217;t have to drive so far.   Rosies was &#8211; at most- five minutes drive from the Causeway and without the hassles of city parking.  </p>
<p>In my experience that is pretty typical Perthite behaviour.  Cockburn would have had troubles.</p>
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