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		<title>By: The Pencil Guy &#187; Encouraging creativity through urban design</title>
		<link>http://hourann.com/blog/2007/03/12/charles-landry-hands-down-his-verdict/comment-page-1#comment-13279</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pencil Guy &#187; Encouraging creativity through urban design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Just when I was afraid the momentum for advancing Perth had slowed, last Thursday&#8217;s FORM event with Carol Coletta (pictured) and Charles Landry managed to draw a crowd of about 800 people even though it didn&#8217;t earn the mindshare of Landry&#8217;s previous visit. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Just when I was afraid the momentum for advancing Perth had slowed, last Thursday&#8217;s FORM event with Carol Coletta (pictured) and Charles Landry managed to draw a crowd of about 800 people even though it didn&#8217;t earn the mindshare of Landry&#8217;s previous visit. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Pencil Guy &#187; Fixing the city centre: not a State priority</title>
		<link>http://hourann.com/blog/2007/03/12/charles-landry-hands-down-his-verdict/comment-page-1#comment-13172</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pencil Guy &#187; Fixing the city centre: not a State priority</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 13:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] above is likely to continue looking like that for a while. Possibly a long while. Now I know what Charles Landry was on about when he said that Perth&#8217;s immense potential is &#8220;blocked in innumerable energy-draining [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] above is likely to continue looking like that for a while. Possibly a long while. Now I know what Charles Landry was on about when he said that Perth&#8217;s immense potential is &#8220;blocked in innumerable energy-draining [...]</p>
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		<title>By: But seek the welfare of the city at Hismethod</title>
		<link>http://hourann.com/blog/2007/03/12/charles-landry-hands-down-his-verdict/comment-page-1#comment-12964</link>
		<dc:creator>But seek the welfare of the city at Hismethod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 01:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Landry&#8217;s Verdict - report from Landry&#8217;s public lecture on his findings (Hourann.com) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Landry&#8217;s Verdict &#8211; report from Landry&#8217;s public lecture on his findings (Hourann.com) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: azza-bazoo</title>
		<link>http://hourann.com/blog/2007/03/12/charles-landry-hands-down-his-verdict/comment-page-1#comment-12647</link>
		<dc:creator>azza-bazoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the reason Charles Landry likes the structure that replaced the Blue House isn&#039;t that it&#039;s good &lt;span style=&quot;font-style:italic&quot;&gt;per se&lt;/span&gt;, but that it&#039;s unique, and is interesting enough to prompt discussion. In other words, a far cry from the don&#039;t-offend-anyone conservatism that you see in almost every other building in Perth.

As for solar panels and green roofs ... Landry was actually talking about city buildings. But one of his suggestions for &quot;things we can do other than mining&quot; was to become a centre for environmentally friendly technology, and widespread adoption of solar panels on houses would go a long way towards creating the right mindset.

You&#039;re entirely right that a paradigm change is needed, that we need leaders with the guts to put their money where their mouth is and bring in subsidies (or similar) for eco-friendly measures. There are a few signs that we&#039;re headed in the right direction, such as the State Government&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/cityregionalplanning/13871.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;interest in BASIX&lt;/a&gt; for new houses, or the fact that many of the new buildings going up in the CBD are 4.5 stars on the official eco-friendliness scale (BTW, &lt;a href=&quot;http://hourann.com/blog/2006/12/01/a-politics-and-health-potpourri&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;, which is five stars, got local government approval yesterday). But to get serious about environmentally-friendly buildings (or indeed any of the issues that Landry raised) we need much more ambitious measures that go far beyond these timid steps.

Also, Adelaide does have two roads to the south that they call freeways :-) That said, it was supposed to be a good thing that those are well clear of their city centre (think Vancouver, or most of Europe) ... except that they never really took advantage of it. In fact I think it was one of Landry&#039;s recommendations that their planning should pay more heed to the fact that they don&#039;t have freeways cutting up their city!

P.S. you know, those 130.95.* IPs really stand out in the logs ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the reason Charles Landry likes the structure that replaced the Blue House isn&#8217;t that it&#8217;s good <span style="font-style:italic">per se</span>, but that it&#8217;s unique, and is interesting enough to prompt discussion. In other words, a far cry from the don&#8217;t-offend-anyone conservatism that you see in almost every other building in Perth.</p>
<p>As for solar panels and green roofs &#8230; Landry was actually talking about city buildings. But one of his suggestions for &#8220;things we can do other than mining&#8221; was to become a centre for environmentally friendly technology, and widespread adoption of solar panels on houses would go a long way towards creating the right mindset.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re entirely right that a paradigm change is needed, that we need leaders with the guts to put their money where their mouth is and bring in subsidies (or similar) for eco-friendly measures. There are a few signs that we&#8217;re headed in the right direction, such as the State Government&#8217;s <a href="http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/cityregionalplanning/13871.asp" rel="nofollow">interest in BASIX</a> for new houses, or the fact that many of the new buildings going up in the CBD are 4.5 stars on the official eco-friendliness scale (BTW, <a href="http://hourann.com/blog/2006/12/01/a-politics-and-health-potpourri" rel="nofollow">this one</a>, which is five stars, got local government approval yesterday). But to get serious about environmentally-friendly buildings (or indeed any of the issues that Landry raised) we need much more ambitious measures that go far beyond these timid steps.</p>
<p>Also, Adelaide does have two roads to the south that they call freeways <img src='http://hourann.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  That said, it was supposed to be a good thing that those are well clear of their city centre (think Vancouver, or most of Europe) &#8230; except that they never really took advantage of it. In fact I think it was one of Landry&#8217;s recommendations that their planning should pay more heed to the fact that they don&#8217;t have freeways cutting up their city!</p>
<p>P.S. you know, those 130.95.* IPs really stand out in the logs &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Glossop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Glossop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Random thoughts...
Adelaide&#039;s reaction is bizarre - particularly considering their urban renewal issues and the *complete lack of freeways*...when I went there about 18 months ago, my reaction - WTF?

But living in Doubleview, 3 minutes from Scarborough Beach - the old blue house on the hill was a real eyesore; it&#039;s aforementioned technicolour replacement is not much better. I do understand the crowd reaction - &quot;different&quot; isn&#039;t by default &quot;artistic&quot; or &quot;cultural&quot;. But - eye of the beholder I suppose...

Finally, I&#039;m no treehugger by any stretch of the imagination (even though I&#039;ve was admittedly slow to accept the evidence for global warming, I&#039;m still a scientist at heart and I do pay attention when the evidence is convincing.) Yet I&#039;d be onboard for putting a whole lot of solar panels on my roof and other similarly ecofriendly measures  - if I could afford to get into the property market in the first place and then have &quot;spare&quot; money. Begs the question - do we need a paradigm change where ecofriendly construction is the default? Is it going to require &quot;regime change&quot; at state and/or federal levels for it to get on the radar? (There&#039;s another topic for your to blog on about...)

[And yes Hourann, I do look at your blog :-) ]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random thoughts&#8230;<br />
Adelaide&#8217;s reaction is bizarre &#8211; particularly considering their urban renewal issues and the *complete lack of freeways*&#8230;when I went there about 18 months ago, my reaction &#8211; WTF?</p>
<p>But living in Doubleview, 3 minutes from Scarborough Beach &#8211; the old blue house on the hill was a real eyesore; it&#8217;s aforementioned technicolour replacement is not much better. I do understand the crowd reaction &#8211; &#8220;different&#8221; isn&#8217;t by default &#8220;artistic&#8221; or &#8220;cultural&#8221;. But &#8211; eye of the beholder I suppose&#8230;</p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;m no treehugger by any stretch of the imagination (even though I&#8217;ve was admittedly slow to accept the evidence for global warming, I&#8217;m still a scientist at heart and I do pay attention when the evidence is convincing.) Yet I&#8217;d be onboard for putting a whole lot of solar panels on my roof and other similarly ecofriendly measures  &#8211; if I could afford to get into the property market in the first place and then have &#8220;spare&#8221; money. Begs the question &#8211; do we need a paradigm change where ecofriendly construction is the default? Is it going to require &#8220;regime change&#8221; at state and/or federal levels for it to get on the radar? (There&#8217;s another topic for your to blog on about&#8230;)</p>
<p>[And yes Hourann, I do look at your blog <img src='http://hourann.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ]</p>
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