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		<title>The West Online: lamez0r</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>azza-bazoo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clearly freaked by News Limited&#8217;s move with PerthNow, some months ago The West Australian redesigned their web site. After a ridiculous promo on Saturday&#8217;s front page, today&#8217;s paper features a big full-pager informing everyone of how great the new site is. Back when PerthNow was released, I dug into it for being behind the times. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly freaked by News Limited&#8217;s move with <a href="http://www.perthnow.com.au">PerthNow</a>, some months ago <a href="http://www.thewest.com.au">The West Australian</a> redesigned their web site. After a ridiculous promo on Saturday&#8217;s front page, today&#8217;s paper features a big full-pager informing everyone of how great the new site is.</p>
<p>Back when PerthNow was released, <a href="http://hourann.com/blog/2006/06/25/a-new-news-service">I dug into it</a> for being behind the times. But guess what? For all today&#8217;s print fanfare, The West Online is <em>even worse</em>. Indeed, the kids at <a href="http://www.vividgroup.com.au/">Vivid Group</a> who <a href="http://www.vividgroup.com.au/pages_2004/news_30062006.asp">built this site</a> have clearly not used any decent online news service in the last, oh, five years or so.</p>
<p>Where to begin? The <a href="http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=149">Community</a> page, with its lame attempt to tell you everything while keeping you on The West&#8217;s site, reeks of a mid-90s &#8220;Web portal&#8221; play. Heck, the print ad even claimed it provides Transperth information (though I couldn&#8217;t find it) &#8212; cos you know, it&#8217;s not like that&#8217;s the job of Transperth&#8217;s <a href="http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/">own site</a> or anything!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, the front page has a decidedly old-school design (no, we won&#8217;t show you all the stories up-front, you have to <em>click</em> on this silly little tab thingy!) and there&#8217;s no RSS feed. There <em>are</em>, however, promises that &#8220;interactive blogging opportunities&#8221; will come soon (ha!).</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the content still consists of only a few shovelware stories, without so much as the occasional picture to dim the monotony. By comparison, for all its still-starting-out-ness, <a href="http://www.perthnorg.com.au">PerthNorg</a> already features more, and better, content than The West Online could ever hope for.</p>
<p>If this represents the best that can be had from a local web-dev firm, then it saddens me that there is such a big shortage of clue in this town.</p>
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		<title>Discoveries in my inbox: PerthNorg!</title>
		<link>http://hourann.com/blog/2006/08/18/discoveries-in-my-inbox-perthnorg</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>azza-bazoo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[An intriguing discovery in my inbox this afternoon: an e-mail from Bronwen Clune, the founder of a flash-looking Web 2.0-ish news service called PerthNorg. While our other new online news service pays lip service to citizen journalism, this site takes a full-on WikiNews-style approach to local news. There&#8217;s Digg-style voting as well (albeit with vote [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An intriguing discovery in my inbox this afternoon: an e-mail from Bronwen Clune, the founder of a flash-looking Web 2.0-ish news service called <a href="http://www.perthnorg.com.au">PerthNorg</a>. While our <a href="http://perthnow.com.au">other</a> new online news service pays <a href="http://hourann.com/blog/2006/06/25/a-new-news-service">lip service</a> to citizen journalism, this site takes a full-on <a href="http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page">WikiNews</a>-style approach to local news.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.perthnorg.com.au"><img src="http://hourann.com/photos/2006/perthnorg.png" alt="PerthNorg" style="border:none;float:right;padding:4px" /></a> There&#8217;s <a href="http://digg.com/">Digg</a>-style voting as well (albeit with vote links that aren&#8217;t prominent enough) &#8212; I&#8217;ll definitely be doing that even if I don&#8217;t get around to submitting anything. This mix has <a href="http://www.arach.net.au/~ted/myblogs/archives/08-01-2006_08-31-2006.html#6600">confused</a> a <a href="http://duncanriley.com/2006/08/01/western-australia-hits-the-web-20-news-stage-introducing-perthnorg/">few people</a>, although I think the implementation has been done pretty well for the majority of Perthurians who&#8217;ll have never heard of either. Oh, and I do love seeing proper use of Web standards!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d actually found out about PerthNorg last week via <a href="http://blogs.smh.com.au/mashup/archives/005428.html">this post</a> on a Sydney Morning Herald blog (the things you learn reading eastern states newspapers &#8230;). But I&#8217;ve been busy with honours and work, and marked it in my mind as something to blog about later, particularly seeing as it was so light on content.</p>
<p>The site is still light on content, albeit much less so than it was; I&#8217;m reluctant to add it to my feed reader until that changes. Indeed, Jeff Jarvis&#8217; <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/25/saving-journalism-and-killing-the-press/">excitement</a> aside, I&#8217;ve not seen many other localised news plays that are built solely out of user-generated content, so I do wonder whether it will take hold.</p>
<p>That said, PerthNorg does have a lot of promise and is definitely worthy of my recommendation &#8212; if only because it&#8217;s currently the one good hope we have of a <a href="http://www.cliquecomm.com/blog/2006/08/01/perthnorg-the-citizen-new-organisation/">decent quality</a> news service in Western Australia <img src='http://hourann.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(Meanwhile: also in my inbox today was an e-mail from <a href="http://www.sctransit.com.au/">Southern Coast Transit</a> thanking me and promising a fix for a comment I made about bus drivers &#8216;logging off&#8217; their trips before I could tag off my SmartRider &#8230; which I&#8217;d sent over a month ago!)</p>
<p>P.S. The lack of posting here hasn&#8217;t been an accident. Announcements are forthcoming, consider yourselves warned!</p>
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		<title>A new news service!</title>
		<link>http://hourann.com/blog/2006/06/25/a-new-news-service</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 06:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>azza-bazoo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today&#8217;s Sunday Times spills much ink extolling the virtues of their new Web site, PerthNow. Finally, there is a vaguely half-decent, relatively frequently updated, online Western Australian news service! (Behind the times? Us, in Perth? Never!) Interestingly, several radio stations and Channel 9 Perth are jumping on the bandwagon, with the latter supposedly offering up [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s <span style="font-style:italic">Sunday Times</span> spills much ink extolling the virtues of their new Web site, <a href="http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/">PerthNow</a>. Finally, there is a vaguely half-decent, relatively frequently updated, online Western Australian news service!</p>
<p>(Behind the times? Us, in Perth? Never!)</p>
<p>Interestingly, several radio stations and Channel 9 Perth are jumping on the bandwagon, with the latter supposedly offering up news video &#8230; eventually. I wonder if that&#8217;s just a worried response to the fact that Channel 7&#8242;s Web site no longer sucks (as much) now that it&#8217;s <a href="http://www.yahoo7.com.au">run by Yahoo!</a>?</p>
<p>That said, the execution of the new site leaves a bit to be desired. It doesn&#8217;t have its own domain name, it &#8220;embraces citizen journalism&#8221; by inviting people to e-mail in their photos, there are no direct links from the News Limited <a href="http://news.com.au">parent site</a>, and the newspaper liftout has a huge article rabbitting on about blogs but the two (!) blogs on PerthNow are buried beneath several levels of links.</p>
<p>With <a href="http://notthewest.com.au">Not The West</a> having stopped the presses, and <a href="http://abc.net.au/news/australia/wa/">Aunty</a> having only limited WA coverage, I guess WA journalism online will remain a wasteland for a while &#8230;</p>
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